Pa. Divided on Same Sex Marriage

A new poll shows Pennsylvania voters support same-sex marriage by a small margin.

Same-sex marriage is still a topic being debated in Pennsylvania.

More voters (47 percent) support same-sex marriage than oppose it (43 percent), according to a January Quinnipiac University poll, but the margin is still small.

The numbers were even closer among men polled, with 44 percent supporting and 46 opposing same-sex marriage. Women were less split with 50 percent supporting same-sex unions and 40 percent opposing them.

When the voters polled were split by religion, 50 percent of white Catholics support same-sex unions with 40 percent oppose them. White Protestants were less accepting with 31 percent in support of same-sex unions and 60 percent opposing them.

Of the Republicans polled, 23 percent support it, while 67 percent oppose them, which is almost flipped by the Democrats polled; 65 percent support same-sex unions and 27 percent oppose them.

Younger voters polled with more education and higher incomes were more likely to be in support of same-sex marriage than their counterparts.

“We can see from the results of this poll that Pennsylvanians are growing more and more supportive of marriage equality, especially in the younger age bracket,” said state Sen. Daylin Leach (D-Montgomery/Delaware) in a news release. “While these results are heartening, our work is far from over. We must work together to encourage further progress and to make marriage equality legal in our Commonwealth.”

Leach has introduced a marriage equality bill during the last three consecutive legislative sessions. He noted that he plans to reintroduce the bill this year.

Click here and scroll down to question 12 for the full findings of the poll.

The Quinnipiac University poll surveyed 1,221 registered voters between January 22 and 27. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.8 percent

Amend February 05, 2013 at 11:22 PM
@Kim- honestly, I find some of the comments being directed towards you uncalled for. Personal attacks never add to civil discourse. I have no inclination to believe that I, or anyone, can or will change your opinion on homosexuality. So on that we can agree to disagree, but that doesn't change the fact that opposing same sex marraige is a form of discrimination. Couching it as a subjective matter simply seeks to redefine what discrimination is. Btw, IMO there's nothing shameful about being a stay at home mother.
Tim Lewis February 05, 2013 at 11:50 PM
I guess you accept everyone but "idiots?"
Kim February 06, 2013 at 12:09 AM
Amend, I must be a dismal communicator. I really am on the fence regarding same sex marriage. I am trying to get informed. Although I have my beliefs, they are my beliefs. As I stated with abortion, I don't feel it is my job to judge. I really think people rip me a part because I am honest about my feelings. If I would just say yes and agree even though I might have questions, they would love me. I am ok with my search for truth. Good for all of those who are so sure of their position. I am friends with 2 couples and I feel for them. That is why I have questions. I don't want t be ignorant. I may be naive in some regards, but I am trying to ask questions to get answers for myself. The reason I tell gay people who cares what people think, is because I don't want them to rely on other people to be ok with themselves. Some people will just never accept their choice. Obviously I didn't communicate that well at all!
Amend February 06, 2013 at 12:44 AM
@Kim- there's nothing wrong with asking questions, and politically charged forums like this can make conversation difficult at best most times. I'm glad you're trying to have an open mind. I can relate thru this experience of my own. I had a terrible experience via my catholic upbringing. It made me jaded and critical of all those who identified themselves as religious. I learned that it wasn't right for me to project my experience onto all others, that not all religious people were "bad people". That acknowledgement allowed me to see past my own painful experience and begin to embrace the things I found to be positive about the church and spirituality. Now, I wouldn't label myself as a Christian, but I can say that I'm cool with Jesus. Just sharing some back story. I always try to remember that Love is the most powerful thing given to humans. :)
Kim February 06, 2013 at 12:47 AM
Amend, Thank you! Good night. :)
kevin February 06, 2013 at 01:45 AM
@tim- -read the bible -have intelligent discussion not possible
Tim Lewis February 06, 2013 at 03:28 AM
Thanks, Kevin. The whole of Western Civilization is built on it, and you say it is not possible to have an intelligent discussion about it. Makes sense.
Lavender Green February 06, 2013 at 03:29 PM
no Tim I do accept idiots unconditionally for being idiots
Tim Lewis February 06, 2013 at 03:40 PM
Perhaps, Sunni. If I was sleeping with someone other than my wife, living with someone I was not married to, or married to several people, then you certainly should make judgments based on my moral character. You would be deficient if you didn't.
Tim Lewis February 06, 2013 at 03:46 PM
Ego, upon what do you base your belief that children should be protected? Upon what do you base your belief that "choice" is the ultimate moral imperative? Upon what do you base your concept of what is a "right"? I base mine on the idea that there is a standard of unyielding moral truth. The same one that the founding fathers of our country based their ideas on, that there are inherent rights and standards granted by God.
Tim Lewis February 06, 2013 at 03:48 PM
How tolerant of you! Kudos on your narrow minded thinking!
Sergei MacCarron February 06, 2013 at 03:50 PM
Tim, hearing you talk about God is a laugh. You and your right wing cronies should try picking up your Bible and reading some Jesus and James. You're a pawn of satan, you don't know Jesus; if you did, you wouldn't be a right winger.
Sergei MacCarron February 06, 2013 at 03:51 PM
I hope the righteous justice God wrecks on your blasphemous, satanic ideology is blessing you with a homosexual son.
Sergei MacCarron February 06, 2013 at 03:58 PM
Hey Tim, since you claim to live your life according to God and Jesus (although, it's obvious to anyone who picks up a Bible that you're a pawn of satan and know nothing of Jesus Christ), I'd like you to find me a single verse in any of the Gospels where Jesus talks about homosexuality. Then, I'd like you to explain why you defend rich republicans, considering Jesus said that it is impossible for a rich man to go heaven, gave blessings to the poor and woe to the rich, and even his own mother's song in Luke makes it clear that we will know Christ for what he is when the poor are sent away filled, and the rich are sent away empty? Of course, expecting a satanic America worshipper like you to actually pick up your Bible and live accordingly is a bit much. Let's be clear, you are not a Christian. You are an American nationalist who will always put your political ideology above the callings of the Gospel.
Sergei MacCarron February 06, 2013 at 04:00 PM
No, Tim, everyone who disagrees with us isn't an idiot. You, however, are. Although, it's not surprising that God would give a satanic heretic like you less than average intelligence.
Sergei MacCarron February 06, 2013 at 04:01 PM
Tim, the whole of western civilization is not based on Christianity. This is just another example of you mistaking your satanic worship of America for authentic biblical values.
Sergei MacCarron February 06, 2013 at 04:03 PM
Tim, I challenge you to a discussion on theology regarding your political ideology. It's clear from your writings that you've never picked up a Bible and actually analyzed it's moral code. Your God is the United States of America, not Jesus.
Sunni February 06, 2013 at 05:52 PM
Tim you completely missed the point I was making. Who cares who you sleep with, who cares what goes on in your bedroom, who cares who you love. Since you did not answer my questions, I take it you thought I was intruding into your personal life. Do you understand my point now? People need to stop deciding what is right or wrong between 2 consenting adults. Actually, I don't even care if it is more than 2 adults, the important words to notice are ADULT and CONSENTING. Oh and by the way I wouldn't judge your life. I don't walk in your shoes, so how am I to know how you feel or why you do what you do
Sunni February 06, 2013 at 06:02 PM
Tim your comment of... Ego, upon what do you base your belief that children should be protected? Upon what do you base your belief that "choice" is the ultimate moral imperative? Upon what do you base your concept of what is a "right"? I base mine on the idea that there is a standard of unyielding moral truth. The same one that the founding fathers of our country based their ideas on, that there are inherent rights and standards granted by God. Please go back and reread the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution. This amazing country we live in was founded on the freedom of religion because our forefathers were escaping religious persecution
Sunni February 06, 2013 at 06:13 PM
Kim whereas you could care less (that implies you care - you forgot the word "not") I think it is amazing that you are able to be a stay at home mom in today's society. When you say enjoy your life and do not care what others think, how are gay people (I just like to call them people and to me there is no gay marriage, it is just marriage) supposed to do that when they are treated as second class citizens?
Ego_Death February 06, 2013 at 07:09 PM
@ Tim- I am not sure I understand your question. Where do I get the belief that children should be protected? Well, I have 2 children and as their father I love them more than anything and do whatever I can to protect them. Unfortunately, not all parents or fathers feel the same way I do. As far as choice and morality go... upbringing, education, family, society in general provide information which allows an individual to decide for themselves to be what is moral and not. What is right and wrong per society changes over time and even depends which society you belong to. Why do you think your morality is the truth vs the talibans? I am sure they would argue different. Which is the whole reason I do not buy into organized religion although born and raised catholic and even going to catholic high school. Unfortunately I see more intolerance and hate spewing from those that claim to be religious because of what they believe to be moral truths than anywhere else. I do believe in God and that all people have inherent rights but for some reason that does not apply to homosexuals? You cannot pick and choose to suit your needs it should cover everyone, not just those that agree with what you deem as moral truth.
Tim Lewis February 06, 2013 at 10:45 PM
Sergei, take a look at your own response. It is filled with animosity towards those "right wingers". I have never been disrespectful towards anyone, but your post says volumes. How come "liberals" are so mean, hypocritical, and intolerant?
Tim Lewis February 06, 2013 at 10:50 PM
Oh, and I never said western civilization is based on Christianity, which is a very different thing. It is based on "Judeo-Christian" moral and ethical principles debated over hundreds of years, and recognizes the existence of objective truth. I would be the first to say America is not a "Christian" nation and never has been.
Tim Lewis February 06, 2013 at 10:52 PM
I am not afraid of that. I would still love him just the same. That does not make the behavior any more or less wrong.
Tim Lewis February 06, 2013 at 10:55 PM
Sorry, truth does not evolve. "Society" decided slavery was ok long ago. Does that make it "right" for that time? Moral and ethical? NO! It is wrong because it is wrong, always was, always will be. You don't get to pick and choose what is right or wrong.
Ego_Death February 07, 2013 at 03:11 PM
Tim- Who are you to judge what is right and wrong? Why is what you think as right the end all and be all? To even suggest a natural act of love is wrong proves how closed minded you are. Also, how come slavery and rape were not mentioned in the original 10 commandments? Maybe because they were accepted practices of the day and not deemed as wrong in society at that time. Those that partook knew no better... Which is also the reason why I think organized religion is a crock of shit. It was made by man to manipulate man and to try to explain things that science does now. Morality is still a subjective concept based on what your beliefs are and what you have learned in your life through experience and will change over time and over different cultures.
Tim Lewis February 07, 2013 at 05:59 PM
Sergei, it is clear you don't know very much about life, let alone theology. From previous posts, you make too many leaps and assumptions, beginning with "why do you support Rich Republicans". 1) How do you know what I do and do not support? My specific political positions might surprise you; 2) the fact that you equate conservative political positions with support for the rich, it simply shows how little you understand what it is about and how shallow is your thinking. True conservative thought is nothing about the rich but is about equal opportunity for all. I believe government is the worse vehicle for making things better, and can point to the "War on Poverty". Hows that one going? Things get worse as the welfare state expands.
Tim Lewis February 07, 2013 at 06:08 PM
Ego, that line of thinking ultimately leads to the inevitable conclusion that there can be no right or wrong. Who are you to judge whether or not Stalin, Hitler, Mao, mass shooters and others have it wrong? Perhaps, for them, in their "morality", it was right and who are you to call it wrong? I would also amend your description to "an unnatural act of love".
Ego_Death February 07, 2013 at 06:20 PM
Only that it changes over time, based on the values of the society. What was right 1000 years ago is wrong today. What maybe right today could be wrong in 1000 years as we develop. The point is that it is subjective and not absolute, although 99.99% of all would think the execution of millions based on inferior genes is wrong, there was a group that thought it right. There is a big difference in murder (negatively affecting anothers right to live) and homosexuality as it does not interfere with anyone else besides those willingly involved. As far as unnatural... Homosexuality occurs in nature, it is a proven fact. I have a friend whose male dog will not go near another female dog but look out if your a male dog...How often do angels occur in nature?
kevin February 07, 2013 at 07:51 PM
Tim! Man you arent getting anything right are you? America was founded as and still is (though to a lesser degree) a Christian nation. And what did those Judeo-Christian morals get us? Skepticism of both science and social progress, marginalization of women, the idea that gays are lesser people and a bunch of molested kids. None of these notions are indicative of objective truth, but rather a very subjective dogma passed down from generation to generation as received wisdom. You say western civilization is built upon christianity's foundations; I believe civilization is infected with christianity's hypocrisy.


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